Common Sense 309 – A Bodyguard Of Lies

Secrecy, hacking, information leaks, whistle-blowers, foreign-operative propaganda pushers, disinformation, election tampering and the search for any truth in cyberspace occupy Dan's thoughts in this show.

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Hillary Clinton

[0:14] I know many of you want me to talk about the election but I have to be honest with you like many of you I find the whole thing depressing.
And everybody gets mad at me as you might expect as I don't pick sides because I don't like any of them which seems to be the majority position for most Americans right now so maybe in that sense I'm just a follower.
With Hillary Clinton we have the champion of the establishment running so everything we talk about when we talk about corruption in government or a she's a neoconservative basically I mean all these things that we have problems with Hillary Clinton is the poster child for those.

[0:55] When we talk sometimes we use that metaphor about the ship of State heading towards an iceberg Hillary Clinton is not the person to steer us away from the iceberg she is one of the main types of people in this system here for more than 20 years has been setting the course,
he steered toward the iceberg.
There's something about her where she is so suspicious of everything and maybe rightly so he's been hounded by,
the opposition since the days when her husband with the governor of Arkansas that she is habitually almost exciting about things and it will catch up with her and it will catch up with her if she becomes president because the Republicans will investigate her,
for your 90% of stuff that never happened is not real.
And 10% of stuff that might be and she's going to act in a way that gets her in trouble the political system in the ability to destroy your political opponents through the politics of Scandal.
Will work very well on her and it to believe that that won't happen you would have to believe that the Republican opposition would act differently than they always have and if they already are.
The old saying goes if current trends continue and if Hillary Clinton becomes president all those women who are so excited about having the first female president and I would be excited about that myself actually.
The father of two girls my girls ask me difficult to answer questions along those lines all the time I doubt she's going to be the poster child you looking for in the long run.

The Other Guy

[2:22] And then there's the other guy who is who defies description really.

[2:29] And in the last show I think it wasn't so long ago I can't remember a thousand apologies ladies and gentleman but the good news is I've been getting a ton done in the history show.
Whenever you don't hear me doing some work over here I'm probably doing work over there.

[2:43] But said some things about Trump in the last year which were totally honest and we know that Trump is got all angry with me but that's how it's going to be folks and the one critique that's so funny is the one that suggested that because for 25 years,
I've been saying I want an outsider who's going to come in and upset the system at blah blah blah that I have to be a trump supporter.
As though it doesn't matter who shows up at your door representing that figure you are pledged to vote for them regardless I'm sorry didn't work that way.

[3:10] Is one of the strangest candidates I've ever seen.
I don't think I'm out of line here saying the guy is a narcissist I think that's on display for everyone and I mean on a scale of 1 to 10 he's an 11 narcissist cuz I think a lot of these politicians fall into the narcissism category somewhere on the Spectrum.
And I don't think he's believable.
And I'm tempted to believe what others have said that maybe he doesn't even look like he really wants the job wouldn't it be the greatest political story and All American history if I guy,
got this far in the Electoral campaign when he really didn't want the job that he ran for subsidiary reasons I don't know if any of that's true but it's it's interesting to wonder about.
I happen to believe that Hillary Clinton loses to almost any candidate that you can think of if they're not mean Donald Trump he's he's an amazingly.
Polarizing figure in the way like I said I think.
I think standard operating procedure candidates Crush Hillary Clinton because of her unpopularity so this is so depressing election for yours truly as I seemingly get what I want and I get it like a weird sort of Twisted way.
I think I'm getting that birthday cake and it's loaded with nails on the left so I'm not talking about it cuz it doesn't matter at this point for me.

[4:26] Neither one of those people are going to solve my problems now on a different front though.

The Death Of Objective Truth

[4:33] It was something interesting going on that I think is worth talking about it dovetails into what I consider to be the larger issues then to the president of the United States may be here next January.
I guess you could say bottom line it revolves around information right back in my more.
Protest the righteous self-righteous hate it I probably would have said instead of information I would have put a spin on it and said truth.
Know about 20 I wrote a piece it was never probably switch you know I'm grateful for now but I had talked to I think I called it the death of objective truth.
And at the time and this is probably 1985 or something and I was talking about how Once Upon a Time there was,
certain agreed-upon facts and end up on those facts you could then build an argument,
and when you had an argument with somebody else about you know which way the country should turn for this or that political event,
you wouldn't be arguing about the base level fact there would be an understanding and agreement on that and you can have the arguments now in the Merit of this specific case so you're not going back and argue and I don't even believe that you're right about your basic assumptions.
The reason glad that wasn't published 20 years ago as I think an older wiser more cynical version of me today realizes that there never was anything like injected truth.
Death of 20 year olds fantasy none the less I do find myself in positions all the time now.

[6:03] For a long time but I know many of you were in the same but I'm not talking to the general public on the show Weeds have a saying that it's a little insulting so I apologize if it was but,
but very early on one of the slogans used for the show is it if the show is too smart for you it's not our fault.
And we've never done the showdown in over a common denominator I figure that it's an underserved audience if you're talking about things reasonably.
Know at a high level and I think we do things with a reasonably high level so you folks are not really my target audience when I say that I find.
Service a certain jealousy in my mother-in-law's book clubs because you're going to these book clubs other popular.
Women like these things and especially to Mom's and what not know Chinese book clubs in the all decide you know we're going to read this book and then when we finish it will all get together over coffee and we'll talk about the book.
Other reason I'm jealous about it is because they all read the same book.
Nobody's going to argue about what happened to the main character in all these things you can talk about what you think above and beyond,
you know the events themselves right we all agree that this happened now what do we think about it it's the one we think about it part that is the really needy fruitful part of a political discussion,
not the arguing over the basic facts.

[7:23] Back in debating class that was considered a debate technique for the person they couldn't win the argument can't win the argument question the sources.
Divert the entire Affair so you're not talking about the thing you can't wait you're not talking about where this person got the information from right we went to the book club meeting and I read this book and you read that one doesn't make for a very interesting conversation about what we thought right.

We Don'T Know The Same Things

[7:46] So I find myself jealous that we all haven't read the same books.
Because I'll have discussions with people about things but I can't get to square one because we don't know the same things if that makes sense.

[8:00] Know you want to explain a certain reality but they don't know about that reality and so you can find yourself having a discussion about.
Well um this happened back here in the blood away other words you know 10 minutes into it you realize you're not discussing the issue that you wanted to discuss it all.
You're trying to find a meaningful point of agreement.
Every earlier level of factual level I mean case in point we were talking about essentially is information right truth is I would have said that as a twenty-year-old.

Nonsense Discussions

[8:32] The reason this is so important is because without it you are not having the right discussions mean in the United States today I Venture a guess that we have never ever in our history talk more often.
With more people involved in the discussion of politics ever.
We have millions and millions of people tuned into Political radio and tell him which you try don't like people talking about it.
Know when you look at the discussion.
So much of it is nonsense in the discussion about the things that aren't really happening or have no basis or I mean it's as though the people talking about them were born yesterday and have no sense of what came before so you can't even have a conversation because we don't even know the same things.

[9:21] And it's immensely frustrating.
And it boils down to know something that we talked about on this program a lot cuz you know I'm I'm addicted to trying to find at least would appear to be to me,
root causes of things,
which is why I think the show gets boring at times because I think when you factor things down to root causes you end up with 4 to 8 root causes and they're the same ones that you could Factor almost anything down to.
One of them is information know.

Free Society

[9:49] The free society and I say this a lot because folks free societies exist on a Spectrum 2 and you can say today we still live in a free Society but are we the same number on the dial of a free society as we were Thirty or forty years ago.

[10:05] If a higher number denotes a more free Society more free and open Society where the people are more involved in the decision-making and the government somehow adopt policies that are somehow connected with the people want I bet you could make a case that we were,
an 1/8 on a scale of 10 back when I was growing up and we are for now still free Society is but we're down 4 notches.